Things I have to get off my chest
Warning - Rant ahead. If you have sensitive feelings, do not read. Otherwise, tell me what you think in the comments section.
- I got the promotional reading list and bought the books. Then I get the updated reading list, and guess what? The first list was messed up, so I bought a book that the City isn't going to use. Where do I file to get my money back. The book being used is the newest edition, however there is still another book on the list which we use the older edition. WTF? Either way, for the most part the books are written by individuals. These individuals are gurus of their topic. However, at least some of them contradict each other in their theories, disciplines, and ideas. So which one do we listen to. Me? I just listen to the voice in my head that says it doesn't really matter, because we have no way of checking to see if the test is actually correct. If we had an issue with a question, there isn't anyone there to listen to it or make a correction. Plus we just have to guess which questions we got wrong and go from there.
- Promotions; when are we going to correct the problems with promotions. How many times are firefighters going to hear an excuse why they don't get promoted. Excuses that cover the facts or real reasons why they don't get promoted. I was told one time when I got skipped over that the others had more time in the department. WRONG. They didn't. The other thing told to me was that Jack and John (names changed) had to be promoted because they were 1 and 2 on the list. HUH? You had to? But you skip over #1 and #2 all the time. I thought you had to. These excuses came from the top.
- Promotions part two. It is a good thing that we have a decent grapevine in Roanoke. Otherwise no one would have known that promotions were taking place. Remember, we are required to hand in a resume. How are we to hand one in if we don't know when they are occurring? Why don't we post an official promotional list. We have people who find out too late that they were looked at for promotions. If it weren't for the firefighters putting together a list, no one would know. But that list always has gaps and is not always correct. We just need an official list sent out after all the candidates are made aware of their scores.
- Lack of tact. When a firefighter suffers cardiac arrest on the fire ground, and is spared his life because of the quick actions of Roanoke's Great Firefighters, don't ask stupid questions like "Mrs. Smith (name changed), do you know of anything that your son might have been doing to make this happen" (quote for effect, I don't have the exact wording.
- Intermediates. Don't tell guys one thing one day and change your mind the next. If they have to get their EMT-I then be honest. If you tell them no, honor it and don't change your mind.
- Intermediates part two. Why don't we fix the damn problem with the EMT-I contracts. Why don't we just say that ever new hire and their mother will have to get there intermediate from this day forward. We know you can't afford to put everyone through class. Better yet, why not put them through class before the fire part of recruit school. That way you can get rid of anyone who doesn't want to take it. Find the money and afford the class. What are we going to do if the EMT-I certification is no longer acceptable and everyone will be either an EMT or EMT-P. Raise of hands who want to go to college for two-four years to get their Paramedic?
- Intermediate part three. Why is there so many different contracts for the EMT-I and EMT-P's who have gotten promoted. This guys has to ride the medic truck once a cycle, that guy once a month, that guy once a quarter. This is not going over well among those involved. We need to have something that is reasonable and consistent.
- Seniority. The lost word in Roanoke. What the hell does that mean. The only thing it is good for is vacation sign ups...Unfortunately. It should mean more than that.
- Ladder 7, 13, and the Reserve Ladder. What the hell is going on. We play musical ladder trucks all the time. Trucks go to the service center to get fixed and they have to be pulled out to go back in service. It seems as though either Ladder 7 and 13 are at the garage constantly. Why don't we prove to the City that we need another ladder truck yesterday. That way, Ladder 7 can park Ladder 13 outside as a parts car.
- Ladder 7 run as an engine. What has is come to that Ladder 7 is replaced with an Engine. See the above post. We need another reliable ladder. I wouldn't be surprised if 7 and 13 have "Fisher Price" stamped on the bottom somewhere. And we don't need to buy a single rear axle ladder truck. Who's idea is that? WTF?
- Firefighters don't need to be micro-managed. Our best leaders are at the Company Officer Level. They lead by example and firefighters respect them and follow them, learn from them, and work hard for them. Let the Company Officers and Battalions run their companies and shifts and the department will be so much better off. Don't get me wrong, the work of higher Chief Officers is very important, as that of the subordinate firefighter. However, it gets hard on the firefighter when he/she has everyone above giving them orders. It is a lot easier if the chain of command is followed up and down.
- Firefighters answer to their company officers. One thing that really gripes my ass is when a firefighter, or subordinate officer supersedes their officer. You want to know what you end up with, micro-management. If you are told to do something, do it. It is as simple as that. I hate hear questions like why do we have to do that, or I don't feel like it. It gives you a bad name.
Don't think that I just made this stuff up. And, no this isn't directed at anyone directly. I am just voicing issues that I hear about daily. If you think that something can be done to correct these issues, then work at it. If it doesn't pertain to you, then so be it. Due to certain strong-armed tactics, firefighters feel they cannot bring up these issues to the ones who call the shots. Therefore, these issues and others remain at the company level and continue to spread discontent.
31 comments:
You can add to your list of reasons to be skipped "you aren't at the right station" -- so we get skipped because we are not at the flag waving station or the other BC station.... wait why have a list... "put in a transfer request".... then they will say the person wanting to leave is a problem or can't be happy where 'we' put him... what are we supposed to do?
I know lets have a spelling contest.
1) The promotional process is messed up because of the ego machine. The ones in power got there by sucking. The ones that they promote get there by sucking. Feed someone's ego, tell them how great they are. You'll get promoted eventually. This shit makes my stomach turn over. An officer title doesn't mean anything if you got there the wrong way. I tell ya what impresses me, it's not the people that walk around and demand to be called by their officer title. It's the guy that has a backbone and will stand up for what's right. So to all the sucks out there, we know who you are, it's just a title big guy, get over yourself.
2) Mandatory EMT-Intermediate is the biggest mistake this dept. can make. Let's face it. People apply to this dept. to become firefighters, not paramedics. The job title is "firefighter/emt" not "emt/firefighter". Anyone can do the job of an EMT. But to force someone to be a medic is ridiculous. Real medics have a passion for their job, i've seen it. They love and feel comfortable with their job. Thats what it takes to be a good one. Lets look at the flip side. What if this dept was made up of a bunch of forced firefighters? What if the back of your shirt said EMS-Fire? Who would you want pulling you out of a fire? Someone who wasn't comfortable being a firefighter or someone who has a passion for their job and gets in their and gets to work. Roanoke City, please do not force me to become a medic. I am not comfortable with the position.
I think you are hitting the nail on the head w/ all of these. One you might add is the other day when we had an airport alert, stucture fire w/ firefighter down, and a possible brush fire on Mill Mountain. Now all of this is fine, except we had crews in Troutville doing RIT training. Dont get me wrong, I think the RIT training is great, but we do have a whole city to work with, can we not find something closer so if needed crews can respond in a decent time?
Why are their so mnay different contracts for the same job? I am not sure how you fix it, but it should be looked at and made fair to all that it applies to.
The EMT-I contract is a joke, when you can hand pick who they want to take the class and who they dont. I am w/ Rhett, why not just make everyone do it instead of picking who they want to take the class.
Something needs to be done because Senority is nothing more than who gets vacation pick first!
Who makes up the reading list for the test? If the answer is Altman there you have it!! the man that has NEVER, yes i said NEVER taken a promotional test, but is going to be incharge of setting up the test that we take... Thats like me going to visit Scooter in the hospital then coming home and thinking i'm a DOCTOR !!
post the new list rhett. i have yet to see one in the station?
well said. how many more great firefighters are we going to lose to other depts? it seems every couple of months we lose someone, sure some come back, but most don't. it's pretty sad when guys would rather go to Iraq then work here. you barely get to know some of these guys and they leave for other depts. or just change careers. i'll be gone in about 6 years and i have seen this dept go downhill. here is some tips chief,
1. promote the ones qualified. not guys who freeze on the radio and give back their rank. not guys who get drunk and bad mouth you and the dept. not people who spend most of their carrer in training.
2. forget the emt-i bulls**t. you want medics, hire medics. don't run these guys off because they are C students. (that C is an exaggeration for some of you knuckleheads.)
3.make a decision and stick to it. don't change sop's constantly on us. you are running this dept in the ground.
one more thing, where the f**k is my station exhaust system?
Great Points Rhett. Since you ranted, I'll put my two cents worth in as well. Sorry, but I think it'll be a little long.
Maybe the problem lies in trying to run a Fire Department without ever really being involved with having a Fire Department run around you. If you never really experienced the issues from the "grunt" side, how can you effectively handle the issues that affect those below you? Or for that matter, know how they affect those below you?
It is a numbers game. Betting on the odds of things not happening at one time.
Betting the lives of the Citizens and Firefighters.
We don't have multiple, simultaneous incidents anymore, so we can do with less.
But wait. Let's see. Airport Alert, Structure fire (with a firefighter down shortly after arrival) and another fire incident somewhere on the back side of Mill Mountain. Did those all happen at the same time?
How often are we "dumped" for ambulances in the City?
But it is okay, it doesn't happen often. How would Scooters outcome have possibly differed if the Mill Mountain call came in first, then the Airport Alert and then the Structure Fire? Would there have been enough people on scene to do what needed to be and was done to save Scooter?
Promotions? Hah, seems that it is a whim and popularity contest.
Are the best candidates at the top?
Not entirely. Many great pump operators/drivers sucked at taking tests and were never on the top of the list.
But that really doesn't matter today. Instead, if you pressure wash the Chief's and his family's floors, paint the Ass. Chief's Church, or maybe even hint at discrimination, you get promoted.
People skipped repeatedly and given different reasons each time, you didn't do this, or you didn't have that, or someone had more time than you, only to next promote someone with less training, less time, etc.
Micro-management, there is a word that the office knows all too well. You MUST call ME before taking your apparatus to the garage to get a lightbulb replaced!!!!! Inconsiderate and plain STUPID comments are the norm. Comments that in the future can come back to haunt the individuals and the Department. But then again, "I do not recall saying that," "I did not knowingly or willingly do anything wrong," and "we have no plans to do that AT THIS TIME" are well know, rehearsed and used statements.
Policies written, rewritten and interpreted on a whim. Variations in disciplinary action for the same infractions. Decisions made and enforced without consideration of legality, morality, etc. until someone challanges the decision. And once challanged, the old "oops, we were wrong, sorry. A new policy will be out tomorrow to cover that."
Many years of service have seen this Department go from a place that people enjoyed coming to work, to a place that people can't wait to get out of. How many people do you hear today, that can tell you how much longer it is until they can retire?
Wake up Administration and smell the coffee (you expect someone to make and pour for you when you show up at a station). Get out in the field in an informal manner. Visit the station and the personnel. Show a genuine concern for the welfare of the men and the Department. Quit trying to find ways to punish people or make them guilty of ANYTHING, instead, find ways to raise your employees to a pedistal to which they belong.
Every day gets better or worse. The choice is yours.
You said it Brother! This department is beginning to be so caught up in me me me that its blurring their vision.We have one who just wants to move you here and there just because he can. "Respect my athorati" as Cartman would say. All with no thought on special skills and knowledge. So we just say " Boy it will piss him off if I send him here!" It doesn't matter if people at 2 can actually do Hazemat or the ones at 6 are HTR, 10 can do ARF or E-5 and L-1 even have personnel who actually know extrication. Hell we even got a Lt. on L-1 who cant drive cause his foot is numb and cant feel how hard he's pushing the peddles and has to wear 2 different size boots because of the swelling so he has to "Till" or ride the seat.I saw him the day before he returned to work walking with a cane. If it where any other we'd still be on light duty or lookn for a job! Wonder why he's there? The promotions are all about what have you done for me lately, and will he still do what I want and not what he wants or what is right. These "young ones" cant do what there told because all they want is to get a badge and get off the medic truck or they are just here for the money. This makes guys 6 months out to busy to learn because there too busy taking officer classes and instructor. They need to learn there job as a firefighter and get some time in before they run the world. The quints are junk and need to be sold to the highest bidder to get some real trucks in here. Why not buy some nice used ladders that some Vol. Company has had sitting in a building for 5 years and go on 3 runs a year and they got money for new ones. Because we all know the Vol. motto "if we don't spend it somebody else will". We don't really need new trucks just nice dependable trucks. All the "Tick" trucks have all the options you can get on them so there better than we could afford anyway! We need E-7 back on the streets or another ladder somewhere. I know for a fact that 7 was down the other night and L-1 was the only ladder on southside,and the were in 901 so how quick where they going to get there? The I's is another story all together. If all these young guns would bite the bullet and take the class we would have enough medic's that they wouldn't have to ride as much as they do now. Think about that? If there were 3 or 4 medics at each house it would be better for all. You could skip cycles at a Oh the mouthy one's? We as officers need to take this in hand and get control of our firefighters. I don't mean be a ass just make them understand that if we tell them to do something there is a reason for it. Be a good leader and they will follow and respect you. Some of this is to blame on us because they have had officers that let this happen or didn't care happend as long as they still got paid and nobody bothered them. So we need to ask ourselves are we here for the right reasons? God knows were not going to get rich at this. So I leave with this, There are hundreds of people who would love to be in our shoes! And if its so bad here don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out! I love this job and Department there's not much I would trade it for and I never get up and say I don't want to go to work today......CAN YOU?
1) The promotional process is messed up because of the ego machine. The ones in power got there by sucking. The ones that they promote get there by sucking. Feed someone's ego, tell them how great they are. You'll get promoted eventually. This shit makes my stomach turn over. An officer title doesn't mean anything if you got there the wrong way. I tell ya what impresses me, it's not the people that walk around and demand to be called by their officer title. It's the guy that has a backbone and will stand up for what's right. So to all the sucks out there, we know who you are, it's just a title big guy, get over yourself.
2) Mandatory EMT-Intermediate is the biggest mistake this dept. can make. Let's face it. People apply to this dept. to become firefighters, not paramedics. The job title is "firefighter/emt" not "emt/firefighter". Anyone can do the job of an EMT. But to force someone to be a medic is ridiculous. Real medics have a passion for their job, i've seen it. They love and feel comfortable with their job. Thats what it takes to be a good one. Lets look at the flip side. What if this dept was made up of a bunch of forced firefighters? What if the back of your shirt said EMS-Fire? Who would you want pulling you out of a fire? Someone who wasn't comfortable being a firefighter or someone who has a passion for their job and gets in their and gets to work. Roanoke City, please do not force me to become a medic. I am not comfortable with the position.
I'll tell you what will fix the EMT-I program. For admin to change the rule to no EMT-I no LT. make it where you have to have it to move up the ranks. I know all you "real" fireman are yelling at your PC right now but think. This is a Fire and EMS dept. do we do more fire or ems. OK who runs more calls? The I's and P's. So who is in charge of more calls. Who is in charge of the life of another person more often. Take an EMT and an EMT-I say they have the same time, traning, and school who should come out on top for LT. Because of the reasons I have listed the EMT-I.
I don't think that will fix anything.
What I should have said is that if you had to be an I or P to get Lt then everyone would sign up to be a medic so they could get the Lt spots.
Also to the guy that says making people become an I is a mistake because people come to this job to be firefighters. There is a problem with that statment. If all you want to do is fight fire I understand EMS is not for all just as firefighting is not for all. But this dept does both. If you don't want to do one or the other you don't need to work here. Go somewhere you will be happier. And I do argee that if someone has a passion for what they do they will do it better. But what we need passion for is working for Roanoke Fire/EMS and doing what ever the job calls for not just passion for fighting fire or running EMS.
Damn, All you guys are hitting the nail on the head. The only thing I have to add is if everyone who is posting and /or reading this in agreement comes to the next Union meeting, maybe we can all work TOGETHER to do something about it. Better than that, let's bring up some of this shit in the next cluster meeting.
It's funny hearing guys that came here pre-mandatory intermediate talk about us guys with the intermediate contracts. "Sign 'em all up." You hear shit like that all the time. ALS is not for everyone. If you think it is, sign your ass up and prove it to me. Let's get all you cap's and 1st lts. and lts. in these classes. Rhett, go sign up man. Really a fire-ems dept. only hurts the citizens. I'd love to take an annonymous poll and see how many people only put up with ems so they can be paid firefighters. I mean thats why people wanna get promoted, to get off the damn medic truck. To the guy who says reserve the officer spots for medics, that would be fine with me. What's the worst that could happen, I stay a firefighter for 20 some more years. I'ts still the best job in the world man even without that officer rank.
Whoa there buddy. I don't think you know who you are talking to. Let me fill you in.
1. I know all about Fire based EMS (our system).
2. I have been a part of a volunteer fire department, volunteer rescue squad, Paid EMS Department, and a Paid Fire/EMS Department. I know a little bit about this stuff.
3. Prior to me getting promoted, $1200 a year was not worth the hassle of EMT-I, however when I worked at 9 I rode as much as the medics.
4. I will sign up to get my Intermediate today if I were to get paid for it.
5. If I do get my intermediate, I only get $500 a year...hardly worth the trouble.
6. When I got hired, I didn't have to become an intermediate. Just like the pre-merge firefighters don't have to be EMT's.
7. You guys will never understand that if the majority has intermediate, then you will ride less and make more money.
8. Look at Goodo, given he is an excellent ALS provider, he got his intermediate, got the money, learned the job, and got promoted. He should be laughing all the way to the bank.
Some people are willing to get turd nuggets on their nose to get where they wanna be. And p.s., it's not about riding the box less, it's about not being cut out for the job of als provider. Let's get that straight.
Shoe on the other foot. what would you say to someone that only wants to be a medic and says I'm not cut out to be a firefighter? I think you would tell them to get training and get cut out for it or get lost. The only way to get comfortable with pts is to climb in the back and take a few. Study hard ask alot of ?s to people that know. The guys who take this job and say I'm not cut out for EMS should go somewhere else it's not the medic's job to do EMS just like it's not the EMT's job to fight fire. Both medics and EMTs do both jobs. I say if you can not do the job O well there is someone out there that can.
Ya know, I'm glad that this ISN'T solely a "FIRE DEPARTMENT." I'd hate to think where scooter might be right now if no ALS providers were on scene for a structure fire.
There once was a county known as Sparta-One of the most powerful countries of its time. However, Spartans aren't around now. Know why? They were unable to conform to change. They did what they did great and that was it. Warfare changed and the Spartans couldn't. Times are changing, this isn't a fire department. It's a Fire-EMS department. These aren't the old days. I think that all of the oldtimers need to move on. This is the way it is. How petty is it that you all are still hanging onto something that happened almost 20 years ago? Grow up already.
Medics who wanna do nothing but ride the box? That's what we need, people who actually like being on it!! This could go on forever, but the bottom line is that anyone can do bls, but not everyone is cut out for als.
"single rear axle ladder truck. Who's idea is that? WTF?"
That was solely a Chief Grigsby thing. The committee tried to do dual axle, but he would have no part of it. We also wanted 100ft ladder, but he would not let it happen either.
"I think that all of the oldtimers need to move on"
Whoever this Jacka** is can kiss this oldtimers a**. I still love my job and think this department is one of the best. You should have been here 20 years ago to see how backwards and unprogressive it was.
Not everyone is cut out to be an I or P. Heck I'm an EMT-B and B stands for barely. There is no way I should be in the back of an ambulance doing PT care so I do everything I can to help our medics out and no one should loose their job because they cannot pass.
That's my 2 cents worth, keep up the good job Heidi.
BG
OK, it's time for me to speak my piece. I will be the second in line for the "anonymous" that posted that the "old-timers" should be moving on comment, to kiss my ass too. No this job isn't the same job that I was hired into 26 years ago, but I still love getting on the big red truck every day. It is my feeling that far too many of our young people do not truly appreciate our job. For many of them this is their first "real" job. They have never had to work really hard at a low paying job without much security and no benefits. Sure, I agree that we are underpaid but we do have a great deal of job security and some decent benefits.I have learned over the years to be successful and happy here, there are only three things you have to do. 1.Know your job! This means that with every aspect of your job take an interest in it and try to learn as much as you can about it. Ask questions, listen to the senior people. Watch, listen, and learn from the experiences of others, whether it had a positive or less than positive outcome. 2. Do your job! Do what is right. Don't always wait to be told everything to do. Quit whining, crying, and bitching that someone might just be getting by with not doing as much work as you. 3. Get along! Nowhere in this great world of ours will you have the opportunity to develop the lifelong relationships that we can and do. Sure, we all have our strong and weak points, but if we all make a sincere effort to respect one another and get along we all reap the benefits. So, from my point of view it is as simple as 1 2 3. An excellent example of this is Goodwin. Learned the job, does the job, and gets along. He will enjoy a long and successful career here. For those of you who think that griping in this forum will change things, WRONG!. Attend Union meetings, form committees, be active, develop a list of not only what is wrong, but ways to fix things too. Work through the proper channels while maintaining proper decorum and respect for
Fire/EMS and City administrators and Council members. For those who will inevitably say "what have you done lately?". Some of us were pounding the pavement soliciting door to door downtown support to keep an engine in #1 on two seperate occasions, before many of you were even born. We went through the NW neighborhoods handing out flyers to prevent the closing of #12. Fought "tooth and nail" to keep the "highly mobile, versitile, and modern" Quints out of here when many of you were in Middle School. Now is your time to stand up and fight for what you believe in. Yes, I do have some knowledge of what it is like to work a shift on the Medic Unit. I have worked some OT on various Units around the City (some people will do anything to make those parent loan payments for college). I do my best to manage my crew so that their Medic Unit rotation is as fair as possible. So there you have it folks. Take it or leave it. Respectfully, Craig Sellers.
Craig, well said and I hope that others will heed what you have written.
Let me rant a little more:
I wonder how the young guys would feel about riding a 35 year old Grey Ghost as a reserve instead of the 16-21 year old reserves we have now? How they would handle trying to suck smoke out of buildings instead of using positive pressure ventilation,
1 1/2 inch hose, no incident command, no headsets for hearing protection, always having to ride backwards in the weather, hand writting all reports instead of doing them on computers, wearing air packs that literally could & did fall apart while in use. Be grateful for what we have and if you would like to see things change, get your facts together and go talk to the Chiefs, they will actually listen.
Ass kissers and promotions have been the same since I came here 24 years ago. But a lot get promoted by learning their jobs, doing their jobs and keeping their mouths shut and listening. So to the young guys I say play the system and be grateful for what you have. All you have to do is go to the Mission on 4th street and see how lucky we are to have what we have & live how we live.
That is all for now.
BG
Baron Gibson
"J-ROD said...
Damn, All you guys are hitting the nail on the head. The only thing I have to add is if everyone who is posting and /or reading this in agreement comes to the next Union meeting,"
Well, the comment sounds good, but I've been to almost every union meeting this year and I see retiree's and older firefights. Where are you j-rod and the young guys. I read on here about all these guys talk about our union but I never see them there. What abut that Rhett?o
First of all, I never claimed to be at every union meeting,I just said WE ALL need to express these views at one. Second of all,in case you haven't noticed I have been building a house for the past two years,so I haven't had alot of spare time. Third, I have kept up with union business through Rhett, and helped out however I can. And last but not least, I sign my name so everyone knows my position.
If you have ever had City Council members point at you and laugh at you when you ride past them on a 40year old piece of fire apparatus, you might be an "old-timer".
If you have to actually push your apparatus out the door to jump start it, you might be an "old-timer".
If you had to use five days of vacation to get a three day cycle off, you might be an "old-timer".
If you ever spent the entire night sitting out on the front pool because it was too hot to sleep in the bunkroom, you might be an "old-timer".
If you had to mow the grass with a push mower while wearing a navy blue polyester badge shirt in August, you might be an "old-timer".
If you ever rode a tailboard or on an unprotected tiller seat in all kinds of weather conditions, you might be an "old-timer".
If you couldn't test for Lieutenant unless you had 5 years of time with the Dept.,you might be an "old-timer".
If you ever jumped out of the hayloft into a life net, you might be an "old-timer".
If you ever had enough people on duty that you could get away for a couple of hours to go to your childs recital/program/game, you might be an "old-timer".
If you ever drove an apparatus that had a manual gearshift, clutch,or hydraulic brakes, you might be an "old-timer".
If you only had 1 portable radio assigned to each company, and it spent most of it's time in the Capt's coat pocket, you might be an "old-timer".
If the tube type two-way radio on the apparatus took a block to warm up while responding to to incident, you might be an "old-timer".
If you ever had "floor duty" (winding the bells, write on a tablet each company as the marked in and out of service), you might be an "old-timer".
If the lights came on, and the bells rang in your station, even if the alarm was on the other side of town, you might be an "old-timer".
If you could eat 2 good meals for $3.00 a day, you might be an "old-timer".
What great days they were!
Craig Sellers
There is nothing wrong with being an "old-timer. But there is something wrong with old-timers saying that this should only be an EMS department. It's not. It won't be. It's a FIRE-EMS department. Work together and not against each other. Stop being narrow-minded. Things change. And Change should be accepted, if it's for the better. The merger happend forever ago. TIME TO MOVE ON. No one is knocking on you for being here before the merger but you all knock on EVERY ONE that came here after. Even the ones that came here 1 year after. What would happen if no one was hired after the merger? It's not our fault that You all were forced to live with, work with, deal with, being around EMS providers. I enjoy fighting fire just as much as I do working on a patient. Not my fault you don't. Not my fault you have issues with change. Not my fault that you can't handle multi-tasking. Not my fault you're stuck on what used to be. You're like my wife-you can never let go. You hold grudges. That's pretty sad for you. Yeah, Brotherhood. You all make brothers feel like sh*t.
If medic's only want to ride medic trucks, then leave them on them! Just take them out of dispatch as being able to fight fire. If medics on medic trucks want to fight fire then let them. This great dispatch system should be able to handle it. Also put 4 on engines and 4-5 on ladders.
No one said it was "your" fault there fella. Stop crying! Great posts there Craig and Smurf. That might make some think before crying next time. JD
Craig you forgot about sticking your hand up the horses a$$, and pulling it's POOP out. Just kidding HAHA.
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